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Post by Vladik on Feb 27, 2005 16:25:12 GMT -5
On-calc hex asm on the 86 (AsmPrgm at the beginning...) and exec string assembly on the 68K calculators...
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Post by bfr on Feb 28, 2005 16:25:44 GMT -5
uh, yeah. On-calc asm is essentially impossible on anything. There are essentially 3 tiers on the hierarchy of languages: At the top are so-called "high level" languages, such as C, Java, C++, etc. The code you write in these is put through a compiler, which essentially moves it down to the next level... The next level is Assembly language. This is the language the designer of a processor makes, to control the processor, so they are processor specific. You can either write asm, or get it from a compiler, but either way it gets passed through the "assembler", and turns into the next level... This level is the real language the computer understands. Ultimately everything comes down to this land of 0s and 1s. That's all this is, 0s and 1s. If you wanted to write code to directly control the processor, such as asm lets you do, but didnt want to use an assembler, you would be typing in 0s and 1s only, and this is what you would do for on-calc asm, because you would have no assembler. Notice BASIC doesnt fit into any of these, because BASIC is not a language like those. BASIC is an interpreted langauge of the TI operating system, not the processor. This is why BASIC is so slow, because the OS looks at it, decides what to do, does it, and looks back, doing most of its normal stuff in the back the whole time. Asm on the other hand turns the OS off, and feeds commands directly to the calculator's brain. Ok, that was a bit of a rant. I'd better stop... (and get back to working on metroid, which has been making a lot of progress in many small ways (to fix bugs))... I remeber reading that in a book a while ago ;D. Very well said though (again...). |
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Post by Vladik on Feb 28, 2005 21:18:15 GMT -5
What book?
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Post by bcherry on Feb 28, 2005 22:26:39 GMT -5
you read what i wrote in a book? I wrote that off the top of my head, i didn't copy it from anywhere. I've only read a few books about programming, and none about assembly languages.
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Post by bfr on Mar 1, 2005 17:50:20 GMT -5
The book was called "How Computers Work" by Ron White, ISBN=0-7897-3033-2. It was really a coincidence; the book explained it almost exactly the way you did. The entire book just has brief descriptions of various computer-related topics and how they work.
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Post by Simon on Mar 1, 2005 17:54:39 GMT -5
maybe its another coincident like the #1337 ?
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Post by bfr on Mar 1, 2005 17:58:09 GMT -5
Yeah lol. ;D
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Post by Vladik on Mar 1, 2005 18:30:01 GMT -5
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Post by Simon on Mar 1, 2005 18:43:37 GMT -5
no , bfr said : Almiost exactly
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Post by bcherry on Mar 1, 2005 22:57:02 GMT -5
I can imagine my explanation being similar to that in a textbook, by the way I phrased and structured the writing, which was kind of my intent, to make it understandable.
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Post by Vladik on Mar 3, 2005 12:42:03 GMT -5
You phrased and structured the writing  ? You are ambitious! |
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Post by bcherry on Mar 3, 2005 21:35:53 GMT -5
It's impossible not to phrase or structure writing. I was writing to make it understandable and informative, and it just so happens that that is the same way textbooks write, so my words sounded like a textbook.
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Post by Vladik on Mar 4, 2005 10:08:21 GMT -5
Hmm... Okay.
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Post by Pure on Mar 30, 2005 22:49:50 GMT -5
BCherry, you ARE a textbook!
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Post by bcherry on Mar 30, 2005 23:28:13 GMT -5
Nah, I'm too liberal to be a textbook. Textbooks these days are all controlled by the Texas State Board of Education. All conservative state school boards make buying decisions for their entire state based on the Texas board, whereas liberal state boards let each district choose independently. What this means is that all textbook publishers now cater to the desires of the texas board, because they control 75% at least of the textbooks purchased in the United States. This is why it is now impossible to buy a new health textbook with any sex-ed component that is not abistence only. i.e. it won't even have the word "condom" in it, so kids will not be educated on contraception, only told "don't have sex" which we all know doesn't work. They really should say "don't have sex, but if you must, understand the risks and use a condom!"
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Post by Pure on Apr 1, 2005 22:06:27 GMT -5
see, you're a LIBERAL TEXTBOOK!
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Post by bfr on Apr 1, 2005 22:38:44 GMT -5
Nah, I'm too liberal to be a textbook. Textbooks these days are all controlled by the Texas State Board of Education. All conservative state school boards make buying decisions for their entire state based on the Texas board, whereas liberal state boards let each district choose independently. What this means is that all textbook publishers now cater to the desires of the texas board, because they control 75% at least of the textbooks purchased in the United States. This is why it is now impossible to buy a new health textbook with any sex-ed component that is not abistence only. i.e. it won't even have the word "condom" in it, so kids will not be educated on contraception, only told "don't have sex" which we all know doesn't work. They really should say "don't have sex, but if you must, understand the risks and use a condom!" *bcherry writes a whole PARAGRAPH about why he ISN't a textbook*.... |
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Post by bcherry on Apr 2, 2005 1:12:33 GMT -5
That would be known as situational irony!
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Post by bfr on Apr 2, 2005 8:59:21 GMT -5
I know.... ;D
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Post by Pure on Apr 2, 2005 16:36:47 GMT -5
SEE?! HE defines situational irony!!! If that's not a textbook, i don't know what is? (well, I may...)
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