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Post by bfr on Feb 22, 2005 16:17:03 GMT -5
It has been a while since the last "Best Game Competition" poll...well, here is the newest.
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Post by Vladik on Feb 22, 2005 16:23:50 GMT -5
Probably me; I am so modest!!!
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Post by bfr on Feb 22, 2005 16:26:13 GMT -5
Yeah sure.... . Probably bcherry, Kevin, protonpower89, or you.
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Post by bcherry on Feb 22, 2005 19:15:59 GMT -5
I'm not voting, because I don't think any of these choices are viable. No one out of them actually programs z80 asm, though some are learning. If you vote for me, I'd be flattered, but I'm not entering anything to that section.
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Post by bfr on Feb 23, 2005 16:17:31 GMT -5
Somone could vote for me because I'm learning Z80 asm and will probably submit something. But the others might be better choices...
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Post by Vladik on Feb 23, 2005 18:05:44 GMT -5
I'm happy with C or BASIC... mostly C...
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Post by bfr on Feb 23, 2005 18:48:23 GMT -5
Even if I had a 68k I still don't know hot to get C on the computer (I think I know how to get it on the calc though...).
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Post by Vladik on Feb 23, 2005 20:25:04 GMT -5
On your calc; you mean transferring a program?
To get it onto your computer, just download TIGCC (and VTI, if you want).
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Post by bfr on Feb 23, 2005 20:30:45 GMT -5
Where?
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Post by Vladik on Feb 23, 2005 20:46:51 GMT -5
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Post by Simon on Feb 24, 2005 21:21:14 GMT -5
I have tigcc but not using it
I have asm86? but I want to create 83+ asm, is it good ?
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Post by bfr on Feb 25, 2005 20:05:55 GMT -5
Should be better than BASIC. ;D
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Post by Simon on Feb 26, 2005 4:03:56 GMT -5
ok but is it the good program ? asm 86
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Post by bfr on Feb 26, 2005 10:02:39 GMT -5
You could probably go to google and seearch "TI-83+ Assembly" and you could download an assembler then program on your computer than download it onto your calc. Or, you may program directly on your calc in asm (but I've heard that it is harder...)!
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Post by Simon on Feb 26, 2005 18:41:27 GMT -5
how could I directly program in my calc in asm ?
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Post by bfr on Feb 26, 2005 20:18:17 GMT -5
It is...hard. I don't even know how. Most people just program on the computer and then donwload the program. Well, first of all, you start the program with "AsmPrgm" (as you already probably knew...). Then, well, you program in on-calc asm (don't ask me how because I don't know on-calc asm. Do a google search or something).
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Post by Vladik on Feb 26, 2005 22:03:59 GMT -5
It is impossible on the TI-82 because the only assembly for the 82 is hacked assembly.
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Post by bcherry on Feb 27, 2005 1:21:29 GMT -5
uh, yeah. On-calc asm is essentially impossible on anything. There are essentially 3 tiers on the hierarchy of languages:
At the top are so-called "high level" languages, such as C, Java, C++, etc. The code you write in these is put through a compiler, which essentially moves it down to the next level...
The next level is Assembly language. This is the language the designer of a processor makes, to control the processor, so they are processor specific. You can either write asm, or get it from a compiler, but either way it gets passed through the "assembler", and turns into the next level...
This level is the real language the computer understands. Ultimately everything comes down to this land of 0s and 1s. That's all this is, 0s and 1s. If you wanted to write code to directly control the processor, such as asm lets you do, but didnt want to use an assembler, you would be typing in 0s and 1s only, and this is what you would do for on-calc asm, because you would have no assembler.
Notice BASIC doesnt fit into any of these, because BASIC is not a language like those. BASIC is an interpreted langauge of the TI operating system, not the processor. This is why BASIC is so slow, because the OS looks at it, decides what to do, does it, and looks back, doing most of its normal stuff in the back the whole time. Asm on the other hand turns the OS off, and feeds commands directly to the calculator's brain.
Ok, that was a bit of a rant. I'd better stop... (and get back to working on metroid, which has been making a lot of progress in many small ways (to fix bugs))...
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Post by bfr on Feb 27, 2005 9:57:54 GMT -5
I've heard something about on-calc asm somehwere.
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Post by Simon on Feb 27, 2005 13:18:56 GMT -5
maybe i realy don't know but thanx to you bcherry for that verygood explenation
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